3x20

Feb. 7th, 2007 03:01 pm
cinaed: This fic was supposed to be short (Scruffy Hero (Radek Zelenka))
[personal profile] cinaed
This is about THE scene, y'know which one I'm talking about, and, uh, certain shippers' reactions to it.

Sheppard: Shouldn't you guys be bickering or something?
McKay: We've got nothing to bicker about. *points to Zelenka* He's run out of bad ideas. Finally.
Zelenka: If we survive this, I'm putting in for a transfer.
McKay: Oh, please. We both know you've done your best work under me.
Zelenka: Under you? I am my own department head, you know!
McKay: Please, we know that department's a joke!
Sheppard: Would you two guys just make out and get it over with?


First off, let me just say how much I love the fact that Sheppard is now the Big Gay Yenta of Atlantis. That just rules.

But what's tickling me the most? The reaction of the McShep folks.

Now, honestly, I'm not trying to gloat or anything like that, but c'mon, this was M/Z's moment of gold! McSheppers have their own community dedicated to turning every episode into McShep subtext, and some of them are up in arms about a single scene that scores a point for McKay/Zelenka? C'mon folks, seriously, chill.

*grins* So, far they've been mostly going, "Projecting much," or "OMG, OOC moment! *flail*" or pointing out how IMMEDIATELY afterwards Sheppard and McKay do a mind-meld (even though, um, that's like Mind-meld - M/S - 1, M/Z - 100, dudes).

I'm posting some of the more humorous reactions of McSheppers so far. Anonymous, because otherwise it'd be outright mocking, methinks.

Meh, he said [just make out and get it over with]? If he did, 'tis only cos he's jealous.

The make out line... that was spoken like a man who's in luuuuurve (and more than a little frustrated--Stupid Replicators and their Stupid laser beams--that *he* can't make out with McKay while they plan on saving the day)

However bad the two nerds are, soon as John and Rodney start going at it (and they do! merely seconds later!) its with so much more heat. The whole back-and-forth conversation was gold: GOLD! Best John/Rodney moment EVER!!!!

[Sheppard's] criteria seems to be bickering = you should make out, which means holy god, he and McKay must've been shagging like rabbits since the moment they met.

John telling Zelenka and Rodney to make out because it's his defense mechanism. He is totally JEALOUS.

That was the one thing in this episode that annoyed me, being that it came waaaay out of the fucking blue. Like [name deleted] said, if bickering and picking on each other is a sign of UST, then John and Rodney have been doing it - with extreme prejudice - since the first hour they landed on Atlantis.


*shakes head* So much more heat? Seriously? And I love how Sheppard and McKay's single mind-meld apparently cancels out ALL of McKay and Zelenka's. That's just...hilarious.

And let me just point out this from "The Seige II," one of McKay and Zelenka's numerous mind-melds, thank you. (Hey, [livejournal.com profile] firebubbles310, isn't this the snippet I showed you that got you into SGA, or was that totally a dream I had?)

Date: 2007-02-07 08:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] martoufmarty.livejournal.com
I KNOW WHO SAID THE FIRST ONE!

... Yeah, I feel special...

*cough*

I'm torn between Sheppard/McKay, Zelenka/McKay, Sheppard/Beckett, and Sheppard/Ronon.

I love my slashy show.

And Sheppard with all his 'Big Gay Yenta' stuff is awesome.

*hugs Atlantis*

Date: 2007-02-07 09:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cinaed.livejournal.com
*laughs* I mean, I honestly don't mind McShep (even though I see them as a platonic, brotherly punch-in-the-arm love sort of way), but seriously? I cannot help but be amused at their die-hard denial of any other possible ship sometimes. *grins*

Sheppard IS the Big Gay Yenta. Methinks he's planning on figuring out who's gay on Atlantis and setting up a speed-dating night for them or something. (And then finds out half of them are already shacked up and is saddened that his speed-dating night falls through.)

Date: 2007-02-07 08:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rosewildeirish.livejournal.com
O.o

I think I'm glad I dug far down enough in my side of the sandbox that I mostly don't even see the McSheppers any more.

Soggy Anus just ain't my style. ;)

Date: 2007-02-07 09:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cinaed.livejournal.com
*giggles* I was reading some of the reviews from [livejournal.com profile] sga_newsletter and couldn't help myself.

I am just way too amused at how McShep fans can be the kings and queens of Denialville. ;)

Date: 2007-02-07 10:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] firebubbles310.livejournal.com
people look much too hard for mcshep... m/z so much easier to see. denial is such a great place to be for them obviously..

Date: 2007-02-07 10:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cinaed.livejournal.com
Oi! Did you watch the episode yet? Because if you hadn't, then BOO for reading this! *tsks* ...Okay, there are other awesome M/Z scenes in it too, which you'll like. But seriously, if you haven't watched it yet, watch it. *nodnodnod*

...God, I'm hyper now. *wants to rewatch the episode*

Date: 2007-02-08 12:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] firebubbles310.livejournal.com
i watched it of course i did. *innocent look* well i have watched 3/5 at work. the spoilers gave me something to look forward to in the episode, especially after the stupid military made a preemptive strike that screws over atlantis and ignores weir (of course i loved weir's turnabout with that guys words. awesome!)

*snickers at your hyperness* well being hyper is good, especially after you have been sick

Date: 2007-02-08 12:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] firebubbles310.livejournal.com
and yes. i do believe that was the link you used to get me into sga... still haven't forgiven you for that. lol

Date: 2007-02-08 02:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cinaed.livejournal.com
*eyes your icon* Who is the creepy yet cute!misunderstood guy?

*laughs* Aw, you know you love the Big Gay Space Show. ;)

Oh, um? I now have SG-1 S5-8.... So, summer?

Date: 2007-02-08 05:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] firebubbles310.livejournal.com
sounds like a plan. we only have about what five or six seasons of shows to watch. lol

Date: 2007-02-08 02:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] firebubbles310.livejournal.com
and btw my icon is kiriyama from battle royale. i never made you watch that movie because it is very bloody andviolent.

Date: 2007-02-08 07:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cinaed.livejournal.com
Ah, thank you muchly. *grin*

Date: 2007-02-08 08:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cinaed.livejournal.com
Well, lessee.

NCIS S1-2
SGA S2
SG-1 S5-8

So...seven. *cough*

Date: 2007-02-08 08:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] firebubbles310.livejournal.com
actually it is NCIS S1-3
and hopefully Bones S1


so eight or nine... *snickers* your mom gonna kick us out of the house again?

Date: 2007-02-08 02:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] no-eden.livejournal.com
I just love it when shippers get jealous about other ships. XD;

Date: 2007-02-08 02:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cinaed.livejournal.com
It's just so FUNNY when shippers get jealous!

*can't quite help snickering* I mean, they have their own community dedicated to turning every conversation between McKay and Sheppard into subtext, and yet, hello, "make out already"? It's just so AWESOME.

Even if I wasn't a M/Z fan, I'd be cackling at the McSheppers and their pissiness and trip to Denialville. *continues to snicker quietly in the corner*

Date: 2007-02-08 03:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] no-eden.livejournal.com
I know. The mockery is completely called for.

I don't ship anything in SGA, really, except for the occasional McKay/Beckett, but wow. M/Z is starting to have its appeal... (Or maybe I'd just ship it to annoy McShep fans.)

Date: 2007-02-08 07:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cinaed.livejournal.com
McKay/Beckett is a good pairing too. *nods* Seriously, SGA is a very slash- and het-happy show, you can pair pretty much anyone with anyone and somehow make it work. The fact that 85-90% of what's written is McShep just continues to astound me.

If you ever want to read some good M/Z fics, I have my favorites in a special folder, the ones that got me into M/Z and away from McShep.

Date: 2007-02-08 05:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thekynicist.livejournal.com
I can see McKay/Sheppard, I like McKay/Sheppard--but Zelenka/McKay come off like an old married couple. The scene that always comes to mind when people make fun of me for liking M/Z is Zelenka and Sheppard talking in "Allies", when they're discussing the Wraith Encyclopedia and all of a sudden, it's "Any news yet?" "I'm sure Rodney is fine."

Date: 2007-02-08 12:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rosewildeirish.livejournal.com
Yeah, that. And in Trinity with the "As your friend...", and in Duet when Radek's at his bedside and is the first (or thereabouts) to notice Rodney's awakened, and and and...

Oh, screw it. I'm a hopeless shipper and it's fairly obvious. ;)

Date: 2007-02-08 07:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cinaed.livejournal.com
[livejournal.com profile] blue_raven is slowly but surely prodding me into writing a ship_manifesto thing for M/Z (how is there Sheppard/Ford and not McKay/Zelenka for that community? how?), and those scenes show that even if you don't look at them with slashy subtext, you can't ignore the fact that they're FRIENDS, not just collegues.

*nevertheless, happily wears my slash-goggles for those scenes*

And yay for hopeless shippers. ;)

Date: 2007-02-08 07:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cinaed.livejournal.com
Exactly! *nods* Where Zelenka is the one with the outburst of worrying about McKay, and it's obviously he's been quietly worrying about it.

Like I said in earlier comments, I like M/S when it's well-written enough to throw me off my view of their brotherly love (and damn if some of McShep fics aren't well-written enough to do that), I just...adore the old married couple that is M/Z. *grin*

Date: 2007-02-08 05:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sandrasolaria.livejournal.com
When it comes to SGA, for me you can just pretty much take Ronon, Radek, Rodney, John, Lorne, and Carson and mix and match. They're all yummy together. But, probably because of the RPs my girl and I do, I prefer John/Rodney and Ronon/Radek over the others. Hey, it's all good though.

I seriously almost died laughing at the Make Out moment. Amazing. And, of course, my mind went to "Okay, John totally knows Rodney has a crush on Radek and he loves him enough to share" *grins* Doesn't hurt, of course, that Radek is a hot piece of Czech, too.

One of my favourite moments in the episode, besides the Make Out, was Rodney and Radek talking together about the nuke. And, also, Shep's OMGBIGDORK moment with the Fantastic Four. That was amazing. I thought Teyla and Ronon were going to crack up when he left. But, alas. No hot Satedan laughter.


Oh, and "You do your best work under me" Yesh. Exactly.

Date: 2007-02-08 07:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cinaed.livejournal.com
Ronon/Radek is a very cute pairing, though the height difference makes my brain hurt when it comes to thinking of sex scenes (probably why I've never written 'em).

See? I'm surprised the McShep fans aren't just shrugging and going, "Hey, threesome!" Come on, everything is solved with a threesome! (It actually worked for a movie I saw the other week, which...pleased me.)

God, Teyla and Ronon love fucking with Sheppard, don't they? *grins* Well, it's just so easy. I now expect to see fics with them watching the new Fantastic Four movie.

Rodney: *stares at screen* "Jessica Alba is Sue Storm? But she's Mexican!"
Sheppard: *shrug* "So? She's hot. And they made her blonde, so don't complain."
Rodney: *mutters and steals Sheppard's popcorn*

Date: 2007-02-09 05:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sandrasolaria.livejournal.com
Ah, yes, the height difference. Who wouldn't love to see the Satedan tree being climbed by the Czech squirrel? :D And, of course, when it comes to sex, only the smallest jockeys ride the big horses well. *smirks* I'm dirty, I know.


And yes, McSheppers, take it from me, three is always better than two. *grins*

The two Team Shep Aliens loove messing with John. You know they knew what he was talking about. I bet they do that a lot.

*snickers*

Date: 2007-02-08 09:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] faithchan.livejournal.com
My theory is that Zelenka would have been in on the mind meld too, but he was too distracted by porny thoughts of making out with Rodney. ^_^

McSheppers can be so silly. :) (Yes, I know, something about glass houses and stones...)

Date: 2007-02-08 09:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cinaed.livejournal.com
My theory is that Zelenka would have been in on the mind meld too, but he was too distracted by porny thoughts of making out with Rodney. ^_^

*snickers* Sounds like a good theory to me. Or distracted by wondering if Sheppard had somehow walked in on their 'last' argument.... ;)

McSheppers can be so silly. :) (Yes, I know, something about glass houses and stones...)

Yep, shippers in general can silly, but the silliness is a good time nonetheless. *grin*

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